If your life doesn’t feel right, Artist Stan Piotroski has some advice for you.

This episode features an interview with Artist Stan Piotroski, who shares how his meandering life path was no accident, but a step-by-step foundation to build the life of his dreams by following his intuition.

To access his breathtaking works and add them to your own collection, please visit the website of my guest today, artist Stan Piotroski, at www.stanpiotroski.com

Visit www.refractivecoaching.com or www.refractivepodcast.com for more resources on stepping into your most authentic life. Additional uplifting content can be found on the Refractive YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6y-HQ1_9-xMnZyq7dhRl4A

For similarly-themed episodes, try these: Dr. Karen Barnard, The Courage to Change Careers or Surrender to Greatness

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Speaker 1 00:00:40 Good afternoon, everybody. This is Johnny G with refractive. If you’re

familiar with refractive and its values, you know that right?

Speaker 3 00:00:48 One of my guiding principles and you hear it a lot in my content is aim

your light. I mentioned this phrase fairly often with clients as well, because it references the

immeasurable power of creation that I believe lies within each person. And that creative power is

available for use. Whenever we agree to live by our gut or live by our intuition. In fact, the reason

I chose the name refractive for my organization for my practice is the quality of each person

being like a prism to receive in energy and then transform bend an aim that energy, as we put it

back out to the world, I have a treat for you today. I’ll be introducing you to Stan PI Troskey. He is

an individual I’ve met some years ago here in DC. Stan has molded a life of love and joy for

himself by listening to that inner sense of knowing and by stepping in faith and courage that his

inner guidance was worth following he’s someone who indeed does aim his light.

Speaker 3 00:02:08 And he’s someone that I deeply respect from my perspective. Stan is

actively responsible for his place in the world, and he is responsible for the energy he puts out to

others. This is a big reason why I wanted to introduce him too. The refractive world here over

stand’s long professional life. He has risen entitled in responsibility, adding prestige through a

solid handful of sectors. He was an officer in the armed forces. He was a federal employee in

the executive branch. He was a psychotherapist with a private practice, and that’s just to name a

few phases of his career. But beneath this life story, a both officer and gentlemen, Stan says that

he always knew he would be a full time artist. And throughout his life, he carved out time space,

energy resources for that passion. So unlike many of us, and I really speak for myself who had

been drawn to a creative field, but have settled in the past for a more realistic or stable or classic

type of career.

Speaker 3 00:03:20 Stan told me that his earlier roles were not chosen at the expense of his

love of art. Rather, they were deliberately selected as a part of his life path and they led him step

by step into the life he lives today, where he can in fact, devote his time and energy to art.

Today’s Stan operates his own art studio and his own gallery. And just like so many times before

he is exactly where he feels he should be now his life as an artist. Isn’t the only example of

Stan’s willingness to say yes to the universe. He also said yes to love and not long ago, Stan

followed his gut yet again and married his husband and having had the privilege to meet stand’s

husband. I can assure you, they are as lovely and inspiring a couple as I’ve ever met. So with

that said, let’s get to it. Hi Stan. Good afternoon. How are you doing today?

Speaker 4 00:04:27 Oh, good afternoon, John. And thank you for those kind and generous

words. Um, I’m having a lovely day and I was looking forward to speaking on this podcast and

relating my experience as to how my life dreams have developed. So I’m happy to be here

today.

Speaker 3 00:04:49 Thank you so much. I am delighted to have view and you know, I think

that one of the elements that brings people to refractive is the feeling that they’ve received

guidance and intuition throughout their life, that they’re supposed to follow path a, but they’ve

second guess themselves. And they’ve chosen the more safe society endorsed path, um,

thereby leaving themselves, feeling lukewarm and unsatisfied by where they end up. Uh, and I

think that this moment, which is a crazy moment in the history of our world is a really good time

for people to pivot and to listen to their heart and do what feels right to them. And because I

have seen you from the outside follow that type of path, I really feel that there’s some value for

you a —

— nd our listeners. So thank you for the sake of the listeners who may be hearing this in future

months, although Stan and I both live in DC, we’re connected today by video because of the

COVID quarantine.

Speaker 3 00:05:59 So listeners please, excuse us. If the audio quality may be a little bit

inconsistent compared to what we normally do. So with that, we’re going to get, we’re going to

get started with talking about sand here. So Stan, you and I have been in each other’s orbits for

about five years now. And when I first started to do a podcast at the beginning of this year, I

knew immediately that I wanted you to be on it. And there are two reasons for that. The first

reason is that you have a very calming presence, um, and it feels good to be in a room with you

that calming presence that you have spreads. And it’s a special quality that in my experience

can take a while to develop. So am I off base with this? Do you understand what I’m talking

about,

Speaker 4 00:06:50 Johnny? I, I do understand what you’re referring to and oftentimes

there’s moments in my life where the calm, the settles in, and there also other times when

there’s an next excitement. And then in that pension of the future of the bow, for the most part, I

believe that I’m, I’m settled within myself. And that takes a lot of work, a lot of opportunity, Trinity,

uh, to develop that sense of security within one’s lines. And at this point in time, it’s something

that actually coming naturally. So Johnny, your intuition is working very well.

Speaker 3 00:07:43 Can you send that? It takes a little bit of work, at least it had in the past

for you. What did that, how did that look?

Speaker 4 00:07:52 Well, you know, I think that a lot of it is looking at oneself and a variety

of factors. Certainly therapy has been a part of that starting in New York city and following

through and in different venues where you get to explore the inner self. Uh, I’m a strong believer

in meditation. I believe that can be very helpful. It quiets the mind and allows you to get in touch

with that part of yourself that, you know, has always been there. Uh, you know, the other

dimension of our lives. And I’ve had great opportunity in my life too. Get in touch with that

dimension of hunting quite a bit, a bit of traveling all over the world, some of a professionally

oftentimes, uh, it has been for pleasure, but it’s been in unique situations where, uh, you get in

touch with something much greater than yourself and it allows you to be open in a way that, um,

you may not be if you don’t have that same opportunity to be there. So that’s, that’s certainly part

of it. Part of my experience,

Speaker 3 00:09:25 What is your preferred methodology for meditation today?

Speaker 4 00:09:31 Breathing, paying attention to your breathing. I’m following, you know,

certain people who are master have mastered the art of meditation and who are good teachers

sitting quietly, allowing your mind to go wherever it’s going to go. Okay.

Speaker 3 00:09:56 Did you use YouTube or apps to find these individuals that you follow?

Speaker 4 00:10:03 I do

Speaker 3 00:10:04 Any that you’d like to recommend off the top of your head. I don’t know if

you might know their names.

Speaker 4 00:10:09 Well, certainly I would recommend Jonathan Foust, who is a local

individual and he is part of the insight community here in the DC Metro area. Yeah. Uh, and

Jonathan, you know, is quite experienced. And then I follow apps Inside timer, Nicholas. It is a

discipline. And when I first started, I really need, it had to have that discipline in my life too, to

quiet the mind.

Speaker 3 00:10:46 I also started my experience with meditation through apps, because as

you know, at first, there’s just no way to sit there silently for 10 minutes and enjoy it. It’s a little

bit, it’s a little bit of craziness going on in the mind. And so by using those brief guided

meditations for five minutes, eight minutes at a time, eventually I got to the point where I could

enjoy just following my breath and doing it silently. But yeah, I love those apps. I really think that

they opened door. You know, The second reason that I wanted to have you on the refractive

podcast, Dan, is that you put out, that’s a significant love energy. Sometimes it looks like

kindness. Sometimes it looks like caring, but as I’ve seen you interact with different people, there

is reall —

— y just a lovely flow of love that comes out of you. And what is your awareness of that? Is it

something that you have cultivated or is it just an automatic natural part of you?

Speaker 4 00:11:55 No, I believe it’s a part of me. My parents are very loving and accepting

people who instilled in us

Speaker 4 00:12:05 The value of being open to a loving, kindness and generosity in our

lives. It’s developed certainly over the years. And as I age, it really began to understand what’s

important in your life and people are important. I’m also valuing those attributes and people

where love slows freely. You know, the, there is very few pretense of a gloves in life, either it’s

there or it’s not there. But I also understand when people can’t show love that there’s something

going on and they just may need some help to do that. I’ve had plenty of help to have an internal

freedom where I can just express lovingly how I experienced someone. I always feel that there’s

something good and everyone.

Speaker 3 00:13:14 Alright, thank you for that. From my perspective, Stan, you seem to

have learned to tune your life compass to something that seems very healthy and nourishing. Is

that correct? Do I have that assumption correctly?

Speaker 4 00:13:30 I believe so.

Speaker 3 00:13:32 What can you say about that?

Speaker 4 00:13:34 Well, it comes from a variety of sources, certainly, you know, the work

that we do on ourselves and the enlightenment that we experienced through the process, the

variety of the processes that are open to us, you know, has led to discovery discovery of who we

are and where we want to go and, uh, what we want with our lives. But I think the basis of all of

that is a certain level of trust trust in one’s beliefs, trust in it, venture that you want to be on and

the courage to take those halves. I think we’ve all done that you’ve done that. I’ve done that. And

it’s a knowing that we develop in our lives and trusting that no. And if there’s doubt, then we

check it out with other people. No, uh, no man or woman is an Island.

Speaker 3 00:14:31 <inaudible> how have you been able to develop and grow that trust

Speaker 4 00:14:38 Time and experience well has helped me to develop that trust.

Speaker 3 00:14:51 How so?

Speaker 4 00:14:54 Well, I, I think, you know, from age Johnny, it is continuing to experiment

with your life and you try many things, you venture out whatever to wherever and whatever you

know is leading you in that path. And you build on the success of openness and willingness.

That’s been minds. And again, you know, having the resolve to follow what you know is right. I

really believe that each one of us has a sense of who we are and where we want to go. And

sometimes it just takes a while to get there.

Speaker 3 00:15:44 Yeah, That’s lovely. All right. That resonates with me Taking that idea of

your life compass, relating it to the idea of higher self inner wisdom, gut and intuition. How does

your intuition show up for you in what form does your intuition show up?

Speaker 4 00:16:07 That’s a good question. I think it happens in all forms of life. What’s

worked for you in the past. Yeah. Builds on our intuition. Uh, and then there is a good experience

where you just know what’s right. Yeah. Have clear away some of the wreckage of the past and,

and understand yourself in a more detailed fashion you could begin to, to trust yourself so that

when you have an inspiration, you, first of all, value that inspiration from where it’s coming and

then you proceed to proceed with the willingness to try things out. That’s what I’ve done in my

life. And then feedback, feedback from others. I think, I believe and think is an important part of

the process of intuition. Then I think there is an innate part of intuition. You just know, you know,

you just know the next right thing to do.

Speaker 3 00:17:20 You know? Um, with the beginning of the quarantine started, I, uh, I had

this very strong idea that I needed to buy a dog and I swear stand like I would have, I did. I

argued with people. I was like, no, like I’m telling you, this is, I had been guided to this. And uh, I

spoke to a friend of mine and he said, Johnny, you literally don’t have a life that permits a dog.

Like it is selfish. And it is not looking at the big perspective of this. If you want a dog, you first

need to make several changes to the way your life i —

— s structured. And I’m just going to say that and offer it to you. Another thing. And that shook

me, you know, to me, it was a good example of how, in one moment I can believe that

something is so right, but then I need to bounce it off people. It might not be right at that

moment.

Speaker 4 00:18:33 <inaudible>

Speaker 3 00:18:34 I find that to be one of the most difficult aspects of discernment, not

every idea that is presented to me by my intuition is most appropriate. In that moment. It might

be something that needs to be tucked away and left to Germany for six months or a year before

it’s appropriate.

Speaker 4 00:19:01 Timing is important. He may know something about yourself prior to me,

you made that on you, something that a dream that you want to pursue, but oftentimes it’s not

the right time. That’s helpful to speak to value of friends and mentor to discuss justice and

opportunity that you’re thinking about with them. And there are times when they say, go for it

right now, why would you not go for it? And that might be because there’s some apprehension,

there’s some self doubt. That’s where the value of people in your life is so important that you can

bounce ideas, all of them and get a perspective. We can develop so much perspective on our

own, and that comes from experience and successful experience. But having the opportunity

when you’re stuck to talk to someone and say, I’m not quite sure about this, but I really think that

this is an important path for me to take. What do you think?

Speaker 3 00:20:23 Yeah. I’m telling you if not, I would be, I would, I would be having a dog

with me on this road trip right now stand. So I, uh, I am grateful for the wisdom of, uh, of trusted

friends. Yes, for sure. So, uh, since you just talked about timing as being so, so important, you’ve

mentioned that you’ve always known that your career would move towards art. Um, I wonder

why you did not jump into a career in art as a young adult, but instead built it gradually over time.

Speaker 4 00:21:15 Well, I think my first response to that and I’ll go into a little more detail is

that they were competing life circumstances that had value and chose to follow one path over

another. I knew as a child, that I was an artist, I was a talented child artist and knew that my

talent was innate. I had paybacks from family, friends, and professionals. And as I, uh,

developed into a teenager, I had opportunities to do that, to do art on a high school level. Then I

entered college and my artistic training began there. And I started to show my work to sell my

work at a very young age and won an award. So there was enough feedback and this, the

stream of life, that’s a, you are an artist. And as I went forward in my life and I received a degree

in psychology and then a masters in social work and then a doctorate in social work, I was still

painting.

Speaker 4 00:22:47 I was still working. I aren’t edited a book. So there was a consistency in

my life that said, this is who you are, but that was also, or than that, I had a lot of training as a

psychotherapist and valued all of that and understood that that was important for me as I went

on in life, I knew that at some point I would become a full time artist. There was never any doubt

in my mind that that’s the direction I was going, but there were other things I wanted to do before

that. And now I have the resources and my life as I retired from my professional life as a social

worker and director sure that I could now devote to art. And for the past five years, actually, even

that while I was still, uh, working, I was actively you’re painting and doing shows and exhibits. So

it’s always been a part of my life. And this is, you know, not just, um, one train it’s knowing, and

this is something that I know

Speaker 3 00:24:08 What I am Feeling from. You know, your answer to that question

Speaker 3 00:24:16 Is a serenity around building a foundational life, uh, of establishing a

nice firm base and, uh, refining it, uh, as you move up over time. And this is exactly what I was

talking about a few minutes ago with the idea of a dog, right? If I want a dog, let me build a

foundation first and let me be serene. And knowing that while today is not the day that I go to the

pound today might be the day that I choose not to renew my lease, where I am. And instead look

for something that fits better. I hear that from you in this process of bui —

— lding the life that you want over time.

Speaker 4 00:25:07 Well, Johnny, I think it’s core and I believe it’s important for all of us to

identify what we clearly know about ourselves and what well, we value in ourselves. I know that

in relationships and I know that professionally, and I know that as far as well, my dream there’s

an aspirations are at this point in my life. And to accept that and to believe it and to follow

through on it, you know, I have the good fortune that I’m able to do that. And I’m very grateful for

that.

Speaker 3 00:25:49 How does fear show up in your life today?

Speaker 4 00:25:53 Fear has always been a part of my life and dealing with fear or anxiety.

It’s more about an anxiety. You can look at anxiety in a positive or a negative way. How does it

help me to live my life comfortably a day at a time? And how does it interfere? Yeah. And each

time that I think about that regarding what circumstances I’ve timed myself, I know that all things

work out and that I’m not in control of all of this, but I’m here to serve a purpose and to be of

service as long as I’m here on this planet and wherever I go from

Speaker 3 00:26:44 There, who knows? Yes. When you talked about the positive, as well as,

uh, the more challenging sides of anxiety, this is something that I have grown to accept as, as a

truth for me in my life, there is nothing that is wrong, right? So if I were to lose a member of my

family, if there were to be a hurricane that wiped out my home, that as distasteful and

unpleasant, as it may be, this is the course I signed up on earth school. Like this is the course I

signed up for. This is the healing in my being that I need in order to be more whole and to

access more of my true essence as a child of the creator. Uh, but it’s hard. It doesn’t feel good

all the time. Know, Stan, let me ask, what would you advise to people who have felt called to a

creative vocation?

Speaker 3 00:28:02 And let me just, let me just peel back the layer and say me I’m talking

about me. Okay. Because when I was in high school, I wanted to move to New York, go to NYU,

be an actor I imagined being on stage and just living that life. And it felt so beautiful to me. And I

never gave any soil to that plant. Right? Like there was just no chance from the gate that I was

ever going to seriously entertain even a partial element of that. We weren’t even going to do

communities. We weren’t going to do anything with it because it just felt that eventually I would

fail it. Wasn’t going to work out. It would be a life of pain and difficulty. And then I would go and

eventually have to take some office job anyway. And now I’d be years behind my peers in title

and income, you know? And, uh, so I gave up that calling of applying my creative force. And I

think I’m not alone in this. I feel like this is a common story. So what would you say to people

who are currently in that situation?

Speaker 4 00:29:18 I would say go to an acting class, sign up, do it that’s simple. Huh?

That’s simple. Just do it. I attended a, uh, master oil painting class in Provence and it was, um, a

landscape painting, class impressionism. And I like impressionism, but I’m an abstract

expressionism. And I went to the South of France and it was an arduous, tough class. And after

three days, I said, I’m not going to do this. And I called my son. I called him, my husband. I

called other important people in my lives. And I said, you know what? This is really hard. And

they all chuckled. And that, especially my sons, that, that even you can do hard things.

Speaker 4 00:30:25 So I will tell you straight, okay. Yeah. What I once told him, which, which

we both had a chuckle over, but it was that contact. Uh, and I was honest. It really was quite

demanding. We would paint 12, 15 hours a day and it was out of my comfort zone. But the

support that I got from my son and husband and others was that you can do it. And we were

actually painting in the darn close to, uh, the, uh, barkeep decides a palace, which is quite lovely.

And I said, well, I can’t see the paint time even mixing, which is a wonderful metaphor. And I just

painted something. I brought it back cause we’d had teak of all the artists by the, a masterclass

leader. And it turned out to be some of my okay, best break through art. Wow. So, you know, uh,

so my, my recommendation for those individuals who are saying, gee, I don’t know where to

start.

Speaker —

— 4 00:31:46 We’ll just do it go. And you know, if it’s, if it’s photography sign up for

photography calls, if it’s acting sign up for an acting class, if it’s marked sign up for an art class

or go to a art store and get, um, a palette and some paints and a canvas, if that’s what you want

to do. Uh, at one of my most recent shows, there was a lovely, a moment ago, came in since she

showed me her, her work. And she had just a beautiful touch of water colors, which I find to be

extraordinary. And it’s very abstract and I, the chain don’t stop. And then another little eight year

old girl in, and she goes, I’m an artist. And I said, I believe you and her pants were standing

there beaming. Cause you knew they were supportive of her art. And she showed me some of

the work that she was doing.

Speaker 4 00:32:55 And it was, it was really quite talented. So, you know, just do it. This is

where you stop questioning, but you already know, and you looked for the opportunity and you

started at a point where going, Oh, I can do this. And if you don’t think you can, then you have to

ask us tough. Why not? If it’s out of apprehension or fear or just indecision or sometimes it’s it’s I

don’t have the money and okay. You know, then you figure out another alternative that you can

explore this, create a part of yourself. And, and don’t listen to the voice that says, I don’t want to

do it now. Just do it wisdom for the ages. Listen, just listen to what, you know, listen to what you

know, that’s the tee shirt we’re going to make for this episode. Listen to what a great idea. Yeah.

Speaker 3 00:34:03 Listen to what you know. Um, Stan, you said something just now that I

really, and listen, this is not the compliment stand out, but I really feel that your response to that

young lady, when she said I’m an artist and you said, I believe you like that is such an

exceptional.

Speaker 4 00:34:25 So full of love and validation and gentleness. And I just think that this

encapsulates why you are memorable to people, I have to say, so Johnny, our quality, the Polish

personality intuitive in your own. Right? So stop question. Thank you, Sam.

Speaker 3 00:34:58 I want to move on to a couple of rapid fire questions.

Speaker 4 00:35:02 Okay. My purpose is to enjoy life and to spread that to others, God is, I

love him. I love happiness. Grace to me is presence in my life that I don’t have to do any of this

alone. Prayer to me is a connection with something greater than myself.

Speaker 3 00:35:41 I’m most proud of

Speaker 4 00:35:45 Life.

Speaker 3 00:35:48 This is what I know for sure.

Speaker 4 00:35:51 I never have to do any of this alone.

Speaker 3 00:35:54 Powerful. I love it. And love it. As we wrap up, Stan, what do you feel

like to say?

Speaker 4 00:36:03 I encourage everyone to be present in their lives to trust what they know

about themselves, to give themselves the permission to proceed. If there’s doubt, bring people in

your life that you know, you can trust for their guidance and consideration, chin and love. Um,

don’t stop. Keep going. You know, uh, identify what you know, to be truthful about yourself and

trusting

Speaker 3 00:36:44 Words to live by Stan. You are a beautiful man who leaves any room

you enter better than it was. So thank you so much. I am just grateful for you to share your light

and your experiences with us today.

Speaker 4 00:36:59 You’re most welcome Johnny

Speaker 3 00:37:02 Stan, where can people see your art? Uh, would you like to spell out

your website?

Speaker 4 00:37:07 Yes. It’s Stan piotrowski.com.

Speaker 3 00:37:13 How do you spell Petroski

Speaker 4 00:37:16 As in Paul? I O T R O S K I

Speaker 3 00:37:22 Alright, Dan, thanks so much folks. This is Johnny G with refractive

coaching and podcasts. I’m a personal and career coach in Washington, D C I help people, both

in-person and remotely who want to make space for a life that feels right. So please reach out to

me@johnnyjohnnyatrefractivecoaching.com or visit my website, refractive coaching.com. I

publish new content all the time on social media, usually a little nuggets of wisdom or beauty that

I find anything that I think will put more light out into the world. It’s a great way to dilute some of

the darker stuff that might be on your timelines right now. So find me on Instagram and Twitter at

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Speaker 3 00:38:20 And my goal is to live my best life by helping other people do the same.

So I appreciate anything you might do to help me help others. And just a quick update regarding

my blog. A few weeks back at the last minute I lost the apartment I was moving into due to mold.

I decided instead of stressing out and forcing myself into a new place in six days from scratch, I

would just put my stuff in storage news, my ridiculous DC rent money and take a two month road

trip across the U S is it some friends visit some families drive through some parts of the country

that I’ve never been through. Of course, keeping in mind, wellbeing and serenity and not in the

time of COVID. I am calling this experiment above the storm because I just don’t believe I need

to suffer through it.

Speaker 3 00:39:19 There may have been a time in my life where that was necessary, but

just like a pilot I can choose just to fly above it, look down, see what’s happening. Um, but enjoy

the view. And that’s what I’m trying to do. I’ve never done something like this before. We’re going

to see how it goes. You can follow along on my blog, go to refractive, coaching.com and click on

blog. You can subscribe there. I’ll also be using video blog, text and social media to document

my adventures over this time. So I do invite you to come and watch what happens when I stop

asking why. And I start saying, okay, what feels right? Thanks again to standby. Troskey for

coming on refractive so much love and light to you, my friend, and to all of the listeners have a

great day. Everybody be good to each other and always remember to aim your.

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